Andy is back with a packed UFO news update as Roswell anniversary week collides with new disclosure rumours, congressional pressure and major debate inside the UAP community.

In this episode, Andy looks at the latest claims around a possible July 8th announcement, Anna Paulina Luna’s comments that an announcement is coming soon, David Grusch’s 60-to-90-day window, and the MKUltra hearing.

Also discussed: Ross Coulthart pressing Lue Elizondo over alleged Legacy Program connections, Elizondo’s response on Cuomo, Burchett and Elizondo appearing with Sean Hannity, UAP Gerb questioning Hal Puthoff and Avi Loeb on Fresh Freedom, Eric Burlison’s comments on a confirmed 1952 MIT Lincoln Lab reel-to-reel audio file, and Stephen Greer’s call for a global bypass of the US disclosure process.

Plus, Andy answers listener questions on soft disclosure, crash retrievals, China and Russia’s silence, the Legacy Program, David Grusch, and whether the public is being dragged through another cycle of “soon.”

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Former United States Marine Michael Herrera joins That UFO Podcast to discuss his alleged 2009 encounter in Indonesia involving a massive advanced craft, armed personnel, and a story that has only become darker and more complex over time.

We get into what he says he saw, why he believes the object looked manufactured rather than traditionally “alien,” what happened afterwards, and how he now connects the incident to UAP secrecy, black programs, psionics, whistleblower protections, Congress, AARO, David Grusch, Steven Greer and the wider disclosure conversation.

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In this special live discussion, I’m joined by Pavel from the Psicoactivo Podcast to break down one of the biggest flashpoints currently developing in the UAP conversation.

Ross Coulthart and UAP Gerb have both raised serious questions around Lue Elizondo’s alleged past role within the so-called legacy program, his possible involvement in controlled disclosure, and whether he would be the right person to lead any future UAP transparency effort.

We discuss what Ross said, why Gerb’s comments have landed so strongly, the rumoured “UAP czar” role, the divide between controlled disclosure and full transparency, and how David Grusch may have changed the entire direction of the conversation.

We also get into the wider implications for whistleblowers, national security, amnesty, The Age of Disclosure, Jay Stratton’s upcoming book, and whether the UAP community is entering a new and more fractured phase.

This is not about character assassination. It is a conversation about trust, disclosure, secrecy, and who the public should rely on as this topic moves forward.

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Andy joins the Doomer Friday crew for a wide-ranging discussion on the Disclosure Forum, the reaction to the event, the role of new UFO organisations, and whether the public is being prepared for genuine disclosure or a heavily managed version of it.

We get into the tone of the Forum, the awards, the lack of truly new information, and the bigger question of what these events are actually trying to achieve. The conversation also turns to whistleblowers like Matthew Brown and Dylan Borland, possible executive action around protections, the rumours of a UFO “czar”, and whether any future disclosure process will prioritise truth, accountability, or control.

This one goes deep into amnesty, historical crimes, classified reality, national security, the threat narrative, global disclosure, and whether the world would actually change if the truth finally came out.

A huge thanks to the Doomer Friday team for having me back on.

Topics include:

The Disclosure Forum reaction
Was the event serious enough?
Awards, optics and public trust
Whistleblowers and legal protection
Matthew Brown, Dylan Borland and Vanguard
The possibility of a UFO czar
Controlled disclosure vs full disclosure
Amnesty, accountability and hidden crimes
Would the public care about the cover-up?
Is “reality classified”?
The threat narrative and national security
What disclosure could actually look like
Why the world may not change overnight

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This week’s UAP news is moving fast.

Andy breaks down the newly discussed UAP Science Advisory Council connected to Avi Loeb, the controversial appointment of Michael Shermer, Anna Paulina Luna’s comments on possible new UAP file drops, the upcoming MKUltra hearing, and the Disclosure Foundation Forum in Washington DC.

From Congress and science to intelligence secrecy, whistleblowers, psychology and public trust, the conversation is no longer just about whether UFOs are real. It is about who controls the information, who gets brought into the room, and whether we are seeing real transparency or the next stage of the cover-up.

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Andy is joined by John Priestland and Dr Martin Abbass from Unhidden, a UK-based, medically led organisation looking at one of the most overlooked parts of the UAP conversation: the people.

Their new report, *Preparing for Disclosure*, asks what might happen if society is confronted with information that fundamentally changes our understanding of reality, and whether governments, health systems, doctors, therapists and communities are remotely prepared for the psychological and social impact.

This conversation explores stigma, experiencers, mental health, ontological shock, public health preparedness, the role of clinicians, and why disclosure — if it ever comes — may not only be a political or scientific issue, but a human one.

A different kind of conversation, but an important one.

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Professor Avi Loeb returns to That UFO Podcast following his appointment to lead the Science Advisory Council supporting the new U.S. government UAP governance structure.

In this conversation, Avi explains how the council came together, who is involved, how it will interact with government agencies, and whether meaningful progress can be made using only unclassified information.

We discuss the latest UAP file releases, the role of skepticism within the council, why Michael Shermer was included, whistleblower protections, transparency, and whether the public can expect regular updates from the group's work.

We also explore Avi's views on crash retrieval claims, biologics, the possibility of non-human technology, and the debate surrounding Dr. Beatriz Villarroel's pre-Sputnik transient research.

Topics include:

• The new U.S. UAP governance structure
• Avi's role leading the Science Advisory Council
• Access to classified vs unclassified data
• Recent UAP document releases
• Crash retrieval and biologics claims
• Whistleblower protections
• Michael Shermer's inclusion on the council
• Beatriz Villarroel's transient research
• The search for conclusive evidence

Got thoughts on the new council or a question for a future Avi Loeb appearance? Let me know in the comments.

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In Part 2 of my extended conversation with Richard Dolan, we move beyond disclosure politics and into some of the deepest questions surrounding the UFO phenomenon.

We discuss whether some aspects of the phenomenon may be darker than many researchers are willing to admit, why Richard believes humanity may be facing challenges of its own making, and what decades of UFO and USO reports suggest about the behaviour of the intelligence behind these encounters.

Drawing on research from his new book, A History of USOs Volume 2, Richard explains how studying patterns across thousands of cases has changed his understanding of the phenomenon and what it may reveal about the long-term presence of these objects around our planet.

We also discuss:

• Whether the phenomenon has our best interests at heart
• The listener question asking if Richard is "holding something back"
• Alien behaviour and adaptation
• Humanity's future and technological dependence
• Why Richard fears human actions more than non-human intelligence
• Historical and modern USO cases
• Underwater UFO encounters
• Behavioural patterns across decades of sightings
• The USS Franklin D. Roosevelt case
• How Richard researched and analysed thousands of reports
• What the data may reveal about the phenomenon's intentions

This is Part 2 of a special extended conversation with Richard Dolan.

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