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The Site Shed | Systems, Strategy and Growth for Tradies and Contractors

The Site Shed | Systems, Strategy and Growth for Tradies and Contractors

By: Matt Jones - Helping Tradies Build Smarter Scalable Businesses
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The Site Shed is a global podcast for tradies and contractors who want clearer systems, stronger strategy, and steadier business growth. Each episode is designed to educate and inform around the topics that matter most in running and scaling a modern trade business.

Hosted by former plumber and digital agency owner Matt Jones, the podcast dives into real-world conversations on marketing, operations, apprenticeships, technology, hiring, leadership, finance, and more, all tailored to the trades and construction industry.

You’ll hear practical insights, honest lessons, and expert perspectives from across the globe.


Whether you work as a tradie, contractor, builder, electrician, landscaper, or run any service-based business, you’ll find ideas and experiences you can put into action straight away.


If you're ready to work smarter, not harder, The Site Shed gives you the tools, frameworks, and viewpoints to help your business move forward with confidence.

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Episodes
  • You Don't Know Your Numbers; That's Why You're Broke | ft. Greg McElroy & Jon Fisk | Ep. 502
    Jun 9 2026

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    More jobs, more staff, more revenue; and you're still growing broke?

    In Part 2 of our CrystalLIQ series, Matt sits down with Greg and John to expose why scaling without financial systems is the fastest way to destroy your trade business. Learn why your P&L is the only scoreboard that matters, how to spot the traps before they bankrupt you, and the accountability framework that separates profitable tradies from busy ones.

    KEY CHAPTERS
    00:00 - Introduction
    01:57 - Growth Traps and the Scaling Dilemma
    04:42 - Case Study: High Revenue vs. High Debt
    07:41 - The Foundation: Accurate P&Ls
    10:48 - Financial Literacy for Business Owners
    14:03 - The Profit First Business Model
    17:41 - Dangers of Hands-off Bookkeeping
    21:02 - Building Truth in Numbers
    22:31 - Hiring and Strategic Capacity
    25:21 - Employee Scorecards and Outcomes
    27:54 - Accountability and the Business Entity
    30:34 - Example: Managing New Inquiries
    32:58 - The Reality of Rapid Growth
    35:22 - Key Takeaways and Margin Focus
    39:02 - Adjusting Pricing During Scaling
    41:22 - Strategic Outlook and Culture
    42:39 - Wrap-up and Next Episode Tease

    📲 Watch the video version! https://youtu.be/kEyXMAtLMg4

    🎙 About Our Guest: Greg McElroy and Jon Fisk
    Greg McElroy and Jon Fisk, co-founders of CrystalLIQ, have each built and sold multiple trade-based businesses. Greg learned his hardest lesson as part-owner of a $48M-revenue business that went into liquidation because nobody knew their numbers. Together they help tradies install the financial systems and accountability frameworks that prevent growth from harming a business internally.

    CONNECT WITH GREG & JON
    Greg's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-mcelroy-45aa90214/
    Jon's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanfisk/
    Website: https://www.crystalliq.com.au/

    CONNECT WITH THE TRADIE WEB GUYS!
    Website: https://www.tradiewebguys.com.au/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TradieWebGuysOfficial?sub_confirmation=1
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TradieWebGuysOfficial
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tradiewebguys/
    LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/company/tradie-web-guys
    Matt’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iamthemattj/

    Your Next Step:

    Join Tradie Academy, our free community packed with templates, checklists, and resources shared by podcast guests, coaches, and successful tradies.

    👉 Join free and grab your next growth tool here: https://tradie.wiki/pod

    Follow The Site Shed:

    • Facebook: The Site Shed
    • Instagram: @thesiteshed
    • LinkedIn: Matt Jones
    • Website: thesiteshed.com
    • YouTube: @TheSiteShed

    If you enjoyed this podcast and the series, please take 5 minutes to leave us a review:
    ⭐ https://lovethepodcast.com/TheSiteShed

    Love the audio version of this podcast? Subscribe to the link below:
    ⭐ https://followthepodcast.com/TheSiteShed

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    44 mins
  • Your Business Is Running You (And You Don't Even Know It) | ft. Greg McElroy & Jon Fisk | Ep. 501
    Jun 2 2026

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    Most tradies think they own a business, but the business owns them, dictating every waking hour and every skipped family event.

    In this episode, Matt sits down with Greg and John from CrystalLIQ to unpack why your business is running you into the ground, how you became the bottleneck without realising it, and the exact moment you need to step out of the operator's seat and into the owner's chair.

    If you've ever felt like your business would collapse without you, that's not dedication, that's the problem. This episode tells you how to fix it.

    Key Chapters
    00:00 - Introduction
    01:52 - Meet the Guests: Greg and John
    02:22 - Overview of the Three-Part Series
    06:45 - The Reality of Running a Mid-Sized Business
    07:49 - Transitioning from a Job to a Business Mindset
    09:53 - The Importance of Systems as You Scale
    11:54 - Identifying When a Business Becomes Unstuck
    15:05 - Re-deploying Business Owner Time and Focus
    18:14 - Frameworks and Tools for Empowerment
    20:18 - Structural Mapping for Future Growth
    24:33 - The Owner’s Responsibility to Educate Themselves
    28:23 - Adapting Systems to Support Growth
    30:52 - Defining Success Based on Owner Goals
    33:14 - Creating a Happy and Professional Work Environment
    36:42 - Practical Tips for Reducing Burnout
    38:16 - Documenting Friction Points for Future Clarity
    40:12 - The Role of Technology and Proper Implementation
    41:45 - Final Thoughts and Episode Wrap-Up

    🎙️ About Our Guests: Greg McElroy And Jon Fisk
    Greg McElroy built his plumbing business from the ground up at 21, one ute, one apprentice, and spent 40 years scaling it into a sale-ready operation before exiting. Now a strategic advisor at CrystalLIQ and current president of the Master Plumbers Association of NSW, Greg brings a no-bullshit, been-on-the-tools perspective to helping tradies build businesses that actually work without them.

    Jon Fisk is a career entrepreneur who's founded, scaled, and exited companies across tech, solar, and engineering, including a renewable energy business recently acquired by a global investor, marking his fourth successful exit. As founder and lead consultant at CrystalLIQ, Jon specialises in pulling business owners out of the operator seat and into the CEO chair before they burn out completely.

    CONNECT WITH GREG & JON
    Greg's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-mcelroy-45aa90214/
    Jon's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanfisk/
    Website: https://www.crystalliq.com.au/

    CONNECT WITH THE SITE SHED!
    Website: https://www.thesiteshed.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSiteShed?sub_confirmation=1
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thesiteshed
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesiteshed/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-site-shed/
    Matt’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iamthemattj/

    CONNECT WITH THE TRADIE WEB GUYS!
    Website: https://www.tradiewebguys.com.au/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TradieWebGuysOfficial?sub_confirmation=1
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TradieWebGuysOfficial
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tradiewebguys/
    LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/company/tradie-web-guys
    Matt’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iamthemattj/

    Your Next Step:

    Join Tradie Academy, our free community packed with templates, checklists, and resources shared by podcast guests, coaches, and successful tradies.

    👉 Join free and grab your next growth tool here: https://tradie.wiki/pod

    Follow The Site Shed:

    • Facebook: The Site Shed
    • Instagram: @thesiteshed
    • LinkedIn: Matt Jones
    • Website: thesiteshed.com
    • YouTube: @TheSiteShed

    If you enjoyed this podcast and the series, please take 5 minutes to leave us a review:
    ⭐ https://lovethepodcast.com/TheSiteShed

    Love the audio version of this podcast? Subscribe to the link below:
    ⭐ https://followthepodcast.com/TheSiteShed

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    43 mins
  • The Lies Keeping Tradies Broke: What 500 Episodes Taught Me | Ep. 500 SPECIAL
    May 26 2026

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    500 episodes! Can you believe it? Since February 2016, this channel has been a journey, and it's clear that to truly achieve business success, you need more than just skill.

    This episode emphasises the critical role of visibility and effective business strategy in winning jobs, reminding us that the best tradie doesn't always win; the most visible one does.

    If your business runs on word-of-mouth, your memory, or manual processes, this episode will challenge everything you think you know about running a trade business.

    00:00 - Introduction
    02:11 - Reflection on 500 Episodes
    03:54 - Host Background and Podcast Mission
    05:28 - Global Ranking and Industry Observations
    08:03 - Truth \#1: Visibility Wins Over Quality Alone
    11:10 - Truth \#2: The Owner as the Business Bottleneck
    14:10 - Truth \#3: Systems are for Survival at Any Size
    17:39 - Truth \#4: Hiring Issues are Leadership Problems
    21:54 - Truth \#5: Embracing Technology and AI
    28:30 - Future Outlook and Industry Opportunities
    30:30 - Closing Thanks and Trading Academy Invitation

    CONNECT WITH THE SITE SHED!
    Website: https://www.thesiteshed.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSiteShed?sub_confirmation=1
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thesiteshed
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesiteshed/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-site-shed/
    Matt’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iamthemattj/

    CONNECT WITH THE TRADIE WEB GUYS!
    Website: https://www.tradiewebguys.com.au/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TradieWebGuysOfficial?sub_confirmation=1
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TradieWebGuysOfficial
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tradiewebguys/
    LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/company/tradie-web-guys
    Matt’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iamthemattj/

    If you enjoyed this podcast, please take a moment to leave us a review:
    ⭐ https://lovethepodcast.com/TheSiteShed
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    ⭐ https://followthepodcast.com/TheSiteShed

    #podcast #thesiteshed #tradiewebguys

    Your Next Step:

    Join Tradie Academy, our free community packed with templates, checklists, and resources shared by podcast guests, coaches, and successful tradies.

    👉 Join free and grab your next growth tool here: https://tradie.wiki/pod

    Follow The Site Shed:

    • Facebook: The Site Shed
    • Instagram: @thesiteshed
    • LinkedIn: Matt Jones
    • Website: thesiteshed.com
    • YouTube: @TheSiteShed

    If you enjoyed this podcast and the series, please take 5 minutes to leave us a review:
    ⭐ https://lovethepodcast.com/TheSiteShed

    Love the audio version of this podcast? Subscribe to the link below:
    ⭐ https://followthepodcast.com/TheSiteShed

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    35 mins
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