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The Selling Podcast

The Selling Podcast

By: Mike Williams and Scott Schlofman
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Feeling stuck in a sales slump? Pipeline looking thinner than a supermodel on a juice cleanse? Want to grow your business faster than a startup funded by a lottery winner? Then buckle up, buttercup, because "The Selling Podcast" is your new obsession!


Join your seasoned (slightly graying but still very spry) sales pros, Mike and Scott, who collectively boast over 50 years of crushing quotas (and racking up enough airline and hotel points to live perpetually in a suite). They're not just here to drop wisdom; they're here to deliver a potent mix of "deep-ish thoughts and some truly mediocre advice" (their words, not ours... mostly) on everything from closing monster deals to navigating the wild ride of life.


Every week, prepare for unfiltered stories, battle-tested philosophies, hard-earned insights, and enough random tangents to keep you laughing – and learning! They even drag in some special guests (who usually offer the really deep insights, just between us) to elevate the conversation even further.


Whether you're a seasoned sales manager, a hungry rep grinding for commission, or just someone who wants to understand the human element of persuasion, Mike and Scott cut through the fluff with their signature blend of sharp sales strategies and hilarious banter.


Stop wishing for more sales, start getting them! Hit subscribe, join the conversation, and let Mike and Scott help you sell better, live better, and most of all... enjoy all of it!

2025 Mike Williams and Scott Schlofman
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Episodes
  • The M.A.S.T.E.R. Traits: How Russ Ferguson Defines Sales Excellence
    Apr 22 2026

    In this episode of The Selling Podcast, we sit down with Russ Ferguson, a seasoned sales leader with over 40 years of experience spanning from "stamp lickers" (mailing machines) to complex medical devices. Russ shares his evolution from a young graduate seeking "easy money" to a veteran who understands that true success is built on integrity, soft skills, and helping others.

    Key Episode Highlights:
    • The "Soft Skill" Master Traits: Russ identifies the core DNA of a successful sales professional using the acronym M.A.S.T.E.R.:
      • Motivated
      • Ability to think
      • Self-starter
      • Teachable/Coachable
      • Ethical
      • Resourceful/Reliable
    • Emulation vs. Plagiarism: How to "plagiarize with pride" by taking successful techniques from mentors and adapting them into your own authentic voice.
    • The "Help Me/Teach Me" Approach: A powerful tactic for building rapport with experts (like doctors or engineers). By positioning yourself as a student, you lower their guard and turn the sales process into a collaborative problem-solving session.
    • Money is the Shadow: Russ explains that if you lead with integrity and focus on helping the customer, money will naturally follow you like a shadow.
    • Navigating the OTE (On Target Earnings): Practical advice for mid-career professionals on discussing compensation, understanding the "Hunter vs. Farmer" dynamic, and why you must ask what percentage of the team is actually hitting their numbers.
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    35 mins
  • The AI Speedrun: Future of AI-Driven Creativity with Jon Cheney
    Apr 15 2026

    "If you don't take care of yourself, you can't help other people."

    In this high-energy conversation, Jon Cheney returns to the podcast to discuss his latest project, Moon Command, a game built entirely through the power of Generative AI. Jon challenges the traditional business dogma of "always charge for your time," arguing instead that in the modern economy, attention is the ultimate currency. Key highlights include:

    • AI as an Equalizer: How Jon used tools like Replit to build apps and games without writing a single line of manual code.
    • The GaryVee Strategy: A deep dive into Day Trading Attention and why "giving it all away" leads to massive inbound success.
    • The "5 Priorities" Hierarchy: A radical approach to management where the job is ranked 5th, behind self, family, beliefs, and hobbies.
    • The Flow State: How music and kayaking fuel professional "sprints" and why you don't have to do everything all at once.

    AI Game Development, Moon Command, Jon Cheney, Replit, Generative AI, Gary Vaynerchuk, Business Philosophy, Personal Productivity, Flow State, Time Management, Entrepreneurship, Giving Value, SEO Strategy, Software Development, Work-Life Balance, Digital Marketing.

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    41 mins
  • How to Build and Sell a Million-Dollar AI Business in a Weekend with Jon Cheney
    Apr 8 2026

    In this episode of The Selling Podcast, Jon Cheney, CEO and Chief AI Officer of GenAIPI, explains how he leveraged AI and veteran sales skills to build a million-dollar business in just six months with a $400 startup cost. The conversation explores the revolutionary concept of "vibe coding"—using natural language to develop production-ready software via platforms like Replit without writing a single line of code. Cheney breaks down how AI is leveling the playing field for entrepreneurs by closing traditional knowledge gaps in law, medicine, and engineering. Key highlights include the importance of selling a product before it’s built, using AI as an "interviewer" to sharpen business conviction, and why the "post-work world" narrative is a threat to human agency. This episode is a masterclass in compressing the entrepreneurial timeline and using AI as a force multiplier for sales-driven growth.

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    37 mins
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