It’s our one-year anniversary of ranting into microphones, and in this episode, we reflect on the pod and share what we’re dreaming of for year two. While we’re never aiming for performative anger, we’re also thinking about how letting the high emotions of this unique time in history play out has been cathartic and important.

Next we dig into messages from listeners and some stellar episode suggestions you’ll be seeing in a podcast feed near you very soon — plus one amazing merch idea. We round out this episode with a Corrections Corner from the religions episode (it’s easy to get evil Dougs mixed up), and a good news update from Montana’s continued effort to combat the negative effects of Citizens United.

Segments & Timestamps:

0:00 - Welcome & One-Year Anniversary

1:08 - Reflecting on Year One

5:00 - Principled Anger vs. Performative Outrage

9:30 - Tribalism & Motivated Reasoning

16:30 - Goals for Year Two

23:30 - Mailbag

37:40 - Corrections Corner: Two Evil Dougs!

43:45 - Good News Corner: The Montana Plan

52:33 - Closing & Credits

Mentioned:

2 Airports In America With Strict Anti-Price Gouging Rules For Food Vendors

‘Montana Plan’ to prohibit corporate spending in politics green lit for signature gathering

New polling illuminates how the Supreme Court got Citizens United wrong and shows bipartisan momentum for money-in-politics reforms, including proposed Montana ballot measure

Episode 12: The One Where They Talk Religion

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Produced and Engineered by ⁠Ken Wilson⁠ | Original Music by Ken Wilson, Trevor Adams, and ⁠Robert Lanterman⁠

Website: ⁠thenuancehour.com⁠

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The question keeps showing up everywhere — on Substack, in comment sections, in podcasts: where is modern protest music? Recorded live at Podfort during Treefort Music Festival, Emily and Trevor are joined by Rob Lanterman — musician, music writer, and label owner— to answer it.

Turns out protest music never left. We're just stuck in our filter bubbles (again).

We trace how growing up evangelical-adjacent shaped our relationship to political music (System of a Down taught Trevor about the Armenian Genocide; Emily felt subversive listening to Relient K; Rob felt guilty writing a Bush diss on his acoustic guitar), why mainstream artists are increasingly afraid to say anything, and what's happening in the corners of the music world where the resistance is loud and explicit. We also talk about why authoritarians make terrible art — and why that matters right now.

Segments & Timestamps:

0:00 - Welcome & Introducing Rob Lanterman

5:45 - Our Evangelical Backgrounds & Protest Music

19:08 - What We're Listening to Now

25:25 - Where Is Modern Protest Music?

34:03 - Why Art & Resistance Matter

36:46 - Artists Making Protest Music Today

43:21 - Closing & Credits

Mentioned:

DIY as a Positive Force for Good: Rob Lanterman for bandNada

THE NUANCE HOUR’S NON-COMPREHENSIVE PLAYLIST OF PROTEST MUSIC FROM THE YEARS by Rob Lanterman

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Produced and Engineered by ⁠Ken Wilson⁠ | Original Music by ⁠Robert Lanterman⁠

Website: ⁠thenuancehour.com⁠

Instagram: ⁠@thenuancehour⁠

Email: thenuancehour@gmail.com

In this episode, we drop any pretense of emotional distance and sit with the rage, grief, and fear stirred up by the killings of Alex Pretti and Renee Good in Minneapolis and the broader wave of state violence and ICE abuses. We wrestle with what it means to honor anger without abandoning our core commitment to bridge-building, and we ask a simple but urgent question: What do we want to tell our grandkids we did during this time?

Trevor unpacks some bad-faith “what about” arguments, and we discuss the theological and moral failures of American evangelicalism in this moment, and why some conservatives’ defenses of government violence amount to either ignorance, bad faith, or straight-up bullshit. We connect the dots from ICE raids to competitive authoritarianism, from Romans 13 to Harry Frankfurt, from the Declaration of Independence to today’s headlines—all in an attempt to name the Rubicon we’re crossing and insist that government-sanctioned killing of citizens is a line we must refuse to normalize.

Segments & Timestamps:

00:00 - Content Warning & Join us at our Treefort Live Show!
02:59 - Setting the Stage
06:39 - Violence, Authoritarianism & Responsibility
10:25 - Minneapolis Killings & ICE
17:33 - “What About?” Arguments
21:51 - Law, Order & Hypocrisy
28:44 - Evangelicals & State Power
37:07 - Lying vs. Bullshitting
43:37 - Competitive Authoritarianism
52:34 - Future of the GOP
59:48 - Founding Ideals & Tyranny
1:01:58 - Good News: Ellis Island Day
1:04:27 - Good Take: Ben Cremer
1:06:38 - Closing & Credits

Mentioned:

French in NYT: ‘Noem Needs to Go’: Three Columnists on ICE in Minneapolis

Ben Cremer: @brcremer

On Bullshit by Harry Frankfurt

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Produced and Engineered by ⁠Ken Wilson⁠ | Original Music by ⁠Robert Lanterman⁠

Website: ⁠thenuancehour.com⁠

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Email: thenuancehour@gmail.com