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The Co-Living Show

The Co-Living Show

By: Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain
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Co-living is one of the most misunderstood, and highest-potential, ​ strategies in residential real estate investing. Most investors hear the buzzwords, see the cash-flow claims, and immediately assume it’s either too risky, too operationally intense, or too complicated to scale. The truth is simpler: coliving work exceptionally well when built on systems, governed by operational clarity, and executed like a real business, not a side hustle. The Co-Living Show exists to make that clarity accessible for serious professionals who want smarter returns without gambling on guesswork.
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Hosted by BiggerPockets authors Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain, The Co-Living Show goes far beyond surface-level real estate content. This is the only real estate investing podcast dedicated exclusively to the economics, operations, regulations, and strategic frameworks that drive high-density co-living and shared housing at scale. Whether you’re new to the model or a high-earning, time-poor professional seeking exposure to a sophisticated cash-flow real estate strategy without becoming an operator, this show delivers the confidence, understanding, and insight needed to invest intelligently.
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Each episode takes you inside the real-world systems behind co-living performance. You’ll hear from operators running multi-market portfolios, attorneys specializing in zoning and compliance, designers who understand space optimization and profitability, lenders financing room-by-room rental strategies, and property managers and city officials shaping the future of affordable housing innovation. You’ll also hear from the Co-Living Cash Flow Community, everyday investors solving operational challenges and executing the exact frameworks discussed on the show.
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👉 Join the community: www.millermcswain.com/community
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There is no fluff here. No hype. No motivational noise. Every conversation is grounded in data, regulatory insight, operational logic, and investor-level clarity. Co-living is not “passive income.” It’s not a shortcut. It’s a system. And systems — when executed correctly — produce scalable, predictable returns that outperform traditional rental models. This is not speculative theory. It’s cash-flow real estate strategy in action.
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Craig brings acquisitions, underwriting, and market strategy. Miller brings operations, pricing systems, and standardization frameworks that make coliving scalable. Together, they deliver an operator’s perspective of an asset class most investors only see from the outside. As BiggerPockets authors, educators, and practitioners, they simplify complexity without diluting truth: coliving works, but only when done correctly.
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You’ll hear underwriting breakdowns, operator case studies, deal teardowns, regulatory realities, tenant strategy, market analysis, and the economic logic behind high-density residential investing. You’ll learn how to invest passively, partner with experienced operators, or simply understand the business model in depth, even if you never plan to manage a property yourself.
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The Co-Living Show does not claim co-living works.
It proves when, why, and under what conditions it works.
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If you want confidence instead of conjecture, systems instead of speculation, and clarity instead of chaos, this is your source of truth for professional-grade residential real estate investing.
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Subscribe and join thousands of investors building deeper understanding, stronger portfolios, and smarter strategies, without wasting time on noise.
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This is the future of residential real estate investing. And now you’ll finally understand how it works.
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Episodes
  • EP 11 - From 0 to 600+ Rooms: How Franco Scaled Co-Living Across the U.S.

    EP 11 - From 0 to 600+ Rooms: How Franco Scaled Co-Living Across the U.S.
    Apr 23 2026

    In this episode of The Co-Living Show, we sit down with Franco Montano, a seasoned operator managing 600+ co-living rooms (and owning 150+ himself), to break down what it actually takes to scale a co-living portfolio.

    Franco shares how he transitioned from running a 42-location T-Mobile business with 750 employees into real estate—and why co-living became his highest ROI strategy.

    If you’re serious about building a cash-flowing co-living portfolio, this episode is packed with real-world insights you won’t hear anywhere else.

    🔑 What You’ll Learn:

    • How Franco scaled to 600+ rooms under management
    • Why co-living works even in expensive markets (remote investing strategy)
    • The truth about tenant demand, pricing, and vacancy cycles
    • How to structure leases to avoid winter vacancies
    • Why most operators fail due to poor underwriting (not operations)
    • Franco’s remodel strategy (including converting homes for under $10K)
    • The biggest mistakes new co-living investors make
    • How to build systems and teams to scale beyond 20+ rooms
    • Why affordable, safe, and clean housing beats fancy amenities
    • Real talk on tenant screening, evictions, and long-term retention

    🧠 Key Takeaway:

    Co-living isn’t complicated because of tenants,
    It’s complicated because of systems, operations, and scaling.

    Master those, and the upside is massive.

    🔗 Connect with Franco:

    📧 Email: Franco@highestmanagement.com
    🌐 Website: highestmanagement.com

    🔗 Connect with Us:

    📸 Miller McSwain: https://www.instagram.com/millermcswain
    📸 Craig Curelop: https://www.instagram.com/craigcurelop

    💬 Join The Co-Living Community:
    https://millermcswain.com/community

    🚀 Resources Mentioned:

    👉 CoLiving Pro (Marketing + Pricing Tool):
    https://www.colivingpro.io

    If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to follow the show, leave a review, and share it with another investor looking to scale in co-living.
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    58 mins
  • EP 10 - The Co-Living Lending Playbook: How Smart Investors Structure Deals (Most Miss This)

    EP 10 - The Co-Living Lending Playbook: How Smart Investors Structure Deals (Most Miss This)
    Apr 15 2026

    The Co-Living Lending Playbook: How Smart Investors Structure Deals

    Financing is the part of co-living that most investors underestimate… until a deal almost falls apart.

    In this episode of The Co-Living Show, Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop sit down with Jessica Khani, a top 1% loan originator and real estate investor who has helped structure and close a large portion of their portfolio.

    They break down what actually happens behind the scenes of getting deals funded—and why the right lender is often the difference between scaling and getting stuck.

    This is not theory. These are real stories, real deals, and real mistakes.

    🔑 What You’ll Learn:

    • Why co-living financing is different from traditional real estate
    • How to choose the right lender (and what questions to ask)
    • Conventional vs FHA vs DSCR loans explained simply
    • Why “shopping for the lowest rate” can cost you deals
    • Creative financing strategies (interest-only, seller concessions, etc.)
    • Real stories of deals nearly falling apart—and how they were saved

    🔗 Connect with Us

    • Miller McSwain → https://www.instagram.com/millermcswain
    • Craig Curelop → https://www.instagram.com/craigcurelop
    • Jessica Khani → https://www.instagram.com/homeswithjessicakhani/

    💬 Join the Community

    Want help with your next deal or financing strategy?

    Join The Co-Living Community to connect with other operators and get real feedback.

    ⭐ If You Found This Valuable

    Share this episode with another investor and leave a review, it helps us reach more operators.
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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • EP 9 - How Alfredo Scaled to 800 Co-Living Doors in 12 Months (Systems, Ops & Strategy)

    EP 9 - How Alfredo Scaled to 800 Co-Living Doors in 12 Months (Systems, Ops & Strategy)
    Apr 9 2026

    In this episode of The Co-Living Show, Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop sit down with Alfredo Goytia, a co-living operator who scaled from 0 to 800 doors in just 12 months.

    This is not theory—this is real-world execution.

    Alfredo breaks down exactly how he built a high-performance co-living operation, including:

    • The systems required to scale from small portfolios to hundreds of doors
    • Why co-living operations are more about processes than properties
    • How automation and tech replace traditional property management models
    • The biggest mistakes operators make when trying to scale
    • Why managing 8 tenants vs 800 tenants comes down to systems—not complexity

    We also dive into:

    • Transitioning from traditional rentals to co-living
    • Property management software and tools for scaling
    • Lead flow, tenant communication, and operational bottlenecks
    • The mindset shift required to operate at scale

    If you're serious about co-living investing, scaling rental portfolios, or building systems-driven real estate businesses, this is one of the most tactical episodes we’ve ever recorded.

    As Alfredo shares, scaling isn’t about doing more work, it’s about building better systems.

    📲 Connect with the hosts & guest:

    • Miller McSwain: https://www.instagram.com/millermcswain

    • Craig Curelop: https://www.instagram.com/craigcurelop

    • Alfredo Goytia: https://www.instagram.com/fredofyre
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    1 hr and 8 mins
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