In this conversation, I sit down with Steve Kamb to explore what it really means to keep moving forward when things don't go according to plan. We talk about why success in business development, leadership, fitness, and creative work often has less to do with having the perfect strategy and more to do with developing the ability to adjust, learn, and make another attempt. Steve shares lessons from stand-up comedy, golf, entrepreneurship, and his own experiences building businesses and writing his latest book, How to Try Again, offering a practical framework for navigating setbacks without getting stuck in them.

A major theme throughout our conversation is the tension between outcome-focused thinking and process-focused action. We discuss Steve's PACT framework, the role of self-compassion after disappointment, why experimentation lowers the stakes of trying something new, and how high performers recover from setbacks more quickly by learning rather than dwelling. Whether you're pursuing new clients, launching a project, building relationships, or simply trying to make progress in an uncertain situation, this episode offers a thoughtful perspective on resilience, adaptation, and the long game of meaningful growth.

Topics We Cover in This Episode:

• Why comedians, entrepreneurs, and business developers all rely on repetition more than perfection

• How the concept of "pre-accepting any outcome" can reduce anxiety and improve performance

• The difference between persistence and continuing to push in the wrong direction

• What Steve's PACT framework teaches about responding to setbacks constructively

• Why treating challenges as experiments can make change feel more approachable

• How curiosity can be more useful than self-criticism when evaluating past failures

• What separates people who recover quickly from disappointment from those who stay stuck

• Why genuine generosity and relationship-building often outperform transactional networking approaches

If you've ever found yourself wondering what to do after a missed opportunity, a failed initiative, or a result that didn't match your expectations, I think you'll find this conversation both practical and encouraging. Tune in, subscribe so you never miss an episode, and share it with someone who could benefit from a fresh perspective on learning, adapting, and trying again.

Resources Mentioned:

Steve's Website: stevekamb.com

Order Steve's Book: https://stevekamb.com/howtotryagain/

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In this episode, I sit down with entrepreneur and Kit founder Nathan Barry to unpack the real relationship between money, impact, leverage, and fulfillment. We talk openly about wealth in a way most people never do, especially in professional services and high performing careers where conversations about money can still feel taboo. Nathan shares why he believes money is simply a tool, how value creation leads to wealth, and why building an audience may be one of the greatest leverage opportunities available today.

We also dive deep into Nathan's upcoming book Ladders of Wealth and the framework behind it. He breaks down the four "ladders" people climb as they move from trading time for money to creating scalable products and equity driven wealth. Along the way, we explore the hidden skills behind making money, the importance of leverage and compounding, and how leaders can create systems that multiply impact over time. Nathan gets candid about his own financial journey, what motivates him now that he's achieved significant wealth, and how he's thinking about raising kids around work, ownership, and generational wealth. This conversation is packed with mindset shifts that completely change how you think about business, success, and the life you're building.

Topics We Cover in This Episode:

• Why Nathan believes money actually can buy happiness when used intentionally

• The hidden "micro skills" behind learning how to make money

• The four ladders people climb on the path to wealth creation

• How leverage quietly changes everything in business and life

• Why the highest earners often focus more on winning work than doing work

• The surprising role compounding plays in careers, relationships, and business growth

• How to think differently about equity, ownership, and long term wealth

• The mindset shift that helps leaders continue growing even after achieving success

If you want more conversations like this around growth, leadership, business development, and building a meaningful career, make sure you subscribe, leave a review, and share the show with your network. These conversations are designed to help you think bigger, create more impact, and build a life that compounds in every direction.

Resources Mentioned:

Get into Nathan's World: NathanBarry.com

You Only Need This To Become Rich (Millionaire Explains) | 119: https://nathanbarry.com/you-only-need-this-to-become-rich-millionaire-explains-119/

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What if the secret to building a high performing team has almost nothing to do with working harder? In this episode, I sit down with Ron Friedman to unpack the science behind what actually makes teams thrive, innovate, and outperform everyone else. We dive into the surprising myths most leaders still believe about teamwork, productivity, meetings, accountability, and motivation, and why the best teams often operate completely differently than conventional wisdom suggests. From shared goals and peer accountability to creating a culture where people genuinely want to do their best work, this conversation challenged the way I think about leadership at every level.

Topics We Cover in This Episode:

• Why some teams accidentally create burnout while others create momentum

• The overlooked difference between a "group" and a true team

• What elite teams do differently with meetings, focus time, and energy

• The hidden reason peer accountability works better than top down pressure

• How innovation often comes from mistakes, not perfection

• Why shared metrics can completely change team behavior

• The surprising connection between meaning, performance, and retention

• A simple leadership shift that helps teams improve without micromanagement

If this episode sparked ideas for your own team, leadership style, or business development strategy, make sure to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who leads people. These conversations are designed to help you grow faster, think bigger, and create a career and team culture you're proud of building.

Resources Mentioned:

Ron's Bonus Material: superteamsinc.com/bonus

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