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Okay, But... Birds

Okay, But... Birds

By: Dr. Scott Taylor
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Hosted by evolutionary biologist Dr. Scott Taylor, Okay, But... Birds explores the drama, brilliance, and science behind bird life. Each snackable 30-minute episode blends smart storytelling, expert interviews, and a touch of humor to reveal how birds shape our world . No jargon. No binoculars required. Just real science, quirky insights, and bird-brained drama you’ll want to share at brunch. Because birds aren’t background. Birds are cool.Okay Media Biological Sciences Science
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  • Okay, but did birds originate the open relationship?
    Jun 11 2026

    E26. We borrowed a phrase from human dating and tried to pin it on birds. Turns out they never needed the rulebook. Dr. Wenfei Tong, biologist and author of Bird Love, joins Scott to unpack what bird partnerships actually look like once you stop projecting our scripts onto them, from females who run the territory to males who guard their paternity in deeply weird ways.

    In this episode you'll hear about:

    • Why the drabbest little brown bird in the garden has one of the wildest sex lives in the animal kingdom
    • How a female calls the shots when she holds the better real estate, and what the males do about it
    • The cloacal pecking payoff you have to hear to believe

    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:

    • Laysan Albatross audio contributed by Ted Miller, ML117679
    • Black-capped Chickadee audio contributed by Jay McGowan, ML202239
    • Spotted Sandpiper audio contributed by Lucas DeCicco, ML516963
    • Northern Jacana audio contributed by Gerrit Vyn, ML140224
    • Red-necked Phalarope audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML235440
    • Black Coucal audio contributed by Myles E. W. North, ML3084
    • Papuan Eclectus audio contributed by Thane Pratt, ML169808
    • Red-winged Blackbird audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML249827
    • Red-winged Blackbird audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML94215
    • Red-capped Manakin audio contributed by David L. Ross Jr., ML57360
    • Blue-footed Booby audio contributed by Robert I. Bowman, ML85906
    • Greater Flamingo audio contributed by Myles E. W. North, ML2443
    • Dunnock audio contributed by Niels Krabbe, ML249162

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    35 mins
  • Okay, but... boobies!
    Jun 4 2026

    E25. The blue-footed booby has become an internet personality: cartoon feet, a goofy strut, a name that practically begs to be a punchline. But Scott sat down with Dr. Carlos Zavalaga, Universidad Científica del Sur, and one of the people who first taught him how to study seabirds in Peru, and the "fool" reputation falls apart fast. Get a booby in the air or underwater and you're watching one of the most specialized hunters in the bird family tree.

    In this episode you'll hear about:

    • How six-plus booby species carve up the same ocean without starving each other out
    • What 20 years of GPS loggers, depth tags, and bags of fresh fish revealed about who eats what
    • Why El Niño, avian flu, and overfishing keep stacking the deck against these birds

    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:

    • Blue-footed Booby audio contributed by Robert I. Bowman, ML85906
    • Red-footed Booby audio contributed by Robert I. Bowman, ML85911
    • Brown Booby audio contributed by Gerritt Vyn, ML136211
    • Masked Booby audio contributed by Chandler Robbins, ML32604
    • Nazca Booby audio contributed by Oliver H. Hewitt, ML31543
    • Peruvian Booby audio contributed by Ted Parker, ML29399

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    34 mins
  • Okay, but what about birds that can't fly?
    May 28 2026

    E24. Flight is the thing we associate most with birds, so what does it mean when a lineage gives it up? Dr. Scott Edwards, Harvard, joins Scott to unpack how flightlessness evolves, why it keeps happening across the bird family tree, and what the genome reveals about how a bird loses the ability to fly.

    In this episode you'll hear about:

    • How losing flight reshapes a bird's body, from feathers to forelimbs to that one famously enormous egg
    • Why the answer wasn't where geneticists expected to find it
    • What an extinct giant and a tiny tropical relative can tell us about where moa actually came from

    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:

    • Falkland Steamer-Duck audio contributed by Maurice A. E. Rumboll, ML4114
    • Great Tinamou audio contributed by David L. Ross, Jr., ML57320

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    33 mins
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