• 394 — Every Parable Has 3 Levels of Understanding and Most People Are Stuck on Level One With Sean O’Laoire
    Apr 21 2026

    When many of you were very young, you learned about right versus wrong sitting in Sunday School being taught the Parables of Jesus. Unfortunately, that’s often where the learning stopped…

    Discover how reviewing the Parables from an adult perspective can be a transformative experience with the help of Sean O’Laoire this week on Spirit Gym.

    Learn more about Sean at his Spirits in Spacesuits website. Find him on social media via Facebook, Instagram and YouTube.

    Timestamps

    8:04 Defining Parables.

    9:42 The difference between knowledge and wisdom.

    16:21 Jesus: The master of exaggeration.

    23:21 The master and the servant motif in Parables.

    26:16 The real lesson behind the Prodigal Son Parable.

    30:48 The Proverb (ancient words).

    48:32 “Every piece that’s necessary is there and every piece that’s there is necessary.”

    56:53 The soul.

    1:00:32 What’s your personal epistemology?

    1:11:00 The Cross according to Rudolf Steiner.

    1:21:40 “There is no situation you cannot reconfigure in order to become a deeply spiritual person.”

    1:26:10 Solving problems from a deeper meta-perspective.

    1:38:54 Religion: The training wheels for spirituality.

    1:45:52 Do you live in gratitude?

    2:01:10 Sean closes the conversation with a song.

    Resources

    Setting God Free: Moving Beyond the Caricature We've Created in Our Own Image by Sean O’Laoire

    Jesus and Lao Tzu: The Parallel Sayings by Martin Aronson

    The cockle (weed)

    Ilya Progogine’s concept of dissipative structures

    Paul’s podcast conversation with Sayer Ji

    How to Understand Your Bible by Manly P. Hall

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  • 393 — Your Kid’s Dropping IQ Is Not An Accident — Here’s the Proof With Dr. Jared Horvath
    Apr 14 2026

    Does it seem to you as if today’s kids are not as smart and lacking in common sense than previous generations? You’re not imagining things…

    The current focus on education — treating the human brain like a computer and using artificial intelligence (AI) to feed it knowledge — may be great for sitting in front of a screen playing video games, but not so much on real learning and creativity, the one true superpower every human being has.

    Educator Dr. Jared Horvath explains why today’s kids are cognitively declining and describes what we can do to reverse that downward trend this week on Spirit Gym.

    Learn more about Jared at his LME Global website and on social media sites like Facebook, YouTube, LinkedIn and Instagram.

    Timestamps

    8:05 Pursuing the science of learning.

    13:20 “The brain is not a computer, and you are not your brain.”

    24:49 Our kids are losing their conceptual natures, and are cognitively declining.

    27:56 Humanity’s greatest superpower.

    32:32 The three stages of creativity.

    35:30 Why are kids living East Asian countries smarter and more creative than those in America?

    50:01 Why teachers don’t have a say in the education process.

    58:20 Focusing on proximal goals versus distal goals.

    1:09:29 Do you really understand the difference between opinions and knowledge?

    1:16:01 AI falsely assumes human thought is best represented in speech.

    1:21:00 The reification of education.

    1:28:09 When Paul was a child, he dreamed of becoming a bank robber.

    1:35:42 The breadth of your knowledge is only as good as the depth of it, which may explain why education is broken.

    1:42:32 The importance of mastery.

    1:53:07 Is it really cheaper for schools to divest from digital tech for physical education and the arts?

    2:02:28 Why it is NOT important for kids to be taught how to use AI.

    2:16:01 Jared’s real problem with AI, aside from the fact that it does nothing: Its intellectual heritage is hidden.

    2:21:08 The tech outsourcing of basic parenting.

    Resources

    The Digital Delusion: How Classroom Technology Harms Our Kids’ Learning — And How To Help Them Thrive Again by Dr. Jared Horvath

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    3 hrs and 2 mins
  • 392 — What Writing Spider-Man Taught Me About the Fool’s Journey With B. Earl
    Apr 7 2026

    Did you know the comic book characters and their stories that are adapted into very successful books, TV shows and movies could teach you as much about myth as the work of Joseph Campbell?

    Filmmaker and comic book writer B. Earl describes how his deep love for comics, mythology and the Tarot led him on a Fool’s Journey away from doing the safe thing — studying biochemistry — to work on Spider-Man comics, make movies and share the lessons he learned by following the road less traveled this week on Spirit Gym.

    Discover more about B. Earl on his Weirdbunch Studio website and on Instagram, Substack and LinkedIn. Read his chapter in the book, Depth Psychology, Myth and Artificial Intelligence: Soul and the Machine, edited by Jason Batt and Jonathan Erickson. Check out his crowdfunded Fangbanger: SUPERPOSITION Anthology on Zoop.

    Timestamps

    7:44 “I found my voice and my own ideas through a mixture of mythology and comic books.”

    11:09 Whose dream wins out to study biochemistry or telling stories?

    17:53 B. Earl’s Hero’s Journey begins with a call from movie producer Larry Cohen.

    28:03 The Tarot helps B. Earl achieve sobriety when he needed it.

    33:45 The libido as life force energy.

    37:46 How do we learn to process, use and embrace the 72 demons of Solomon?

    49:13 The commercialization of Hip Hop.

    53:35 Comics: The most powerful medium and the additive version of the creative process.

    1:00:05 Can you decode the symbolism hiding in plain sight?

    1:07:15 How much of your consciousness is tied up in your ego?

    1:16:44 The Fool’s Journey.

    1:26:40 Different Tarot card decks, different insights.

    1:35:00 The forced redundancy of us in AI.

    1:41:07 The magic of storytelling that conveys deeper truths and native myths in B. Earl’s Deadly Neighborhood Spider-Man.

    1:55:55 Conflict and forgiveness are necessary for us to live and grow.

    Resources

    Watch B. Earl talk about The Poetry of Death during the recent Soul and the Machine webinar on the International Society of Mythology website

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    2 hrs and 32 mins
  • 391 — Myth, Soul and the Machine: How Ancient Wisdom Can Ground You in a World Gone Digital with Jason Batt
    Mar 31 2026

    As artificial intelligence (AI) encroaches deeper than ever before into our daily lives, how do we as humans begin to address the greater questions about the soul and what mysteries lie beyond our planet?

    Technological Philosopher, Mythologist/Futurist and Wizard Jason Batt joins Paul on an exploration of what lies ahead for humans and AI and how the power of myth can light the way this week on Spirit Gym.

    Check out Jason’s work on his website, the International Society of Mythology and Substack. Find him on social media via Instagram and LinkedIn.

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    Timestamps

    7:31 Is Jason a Technological Philosopher, Mythologist/Futurist or a Wizard?

    16:25 The U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and the 100 Year Starship project comes calling on the birth of Jason’s third child.

    29:08 Why the Tarot has been around for a long time.

    46:17 Momentary gods.

    59:35 The danger of mixing myth and religion.

    1:08:27 What happens when AI platforms talk to each other?

    1:18:12 “Every book of fiction is ourself.

    1:25:59 The greatest profession anyone could have.

    1:37:31 The SOUL.md of AI.

    1:48:32 The myth of Narcissus is a metaphor for modern times.

    1:58:19 To ignore the lessons of myth leaves us vulnerable to the hubris of unchecked innovation and being deceived.

    Resources

    Depth Psychology, Myth and Artificial Intelligence: Soul and the Machine by Jason Batt and Jonathan Erickson

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    2 hrs and 46 mins
  • 390 — You Can't Fire a Cannon From a Canoe: The Core Truth Elite Athletes Learn Too Late With Paul Chek
    Mar 24 2026

    When people have a hard time dealing with back pain that keeps them from doing the tasks that make up their day, they rarely think about the health of their core, the locus of their body’s visceral somatic expression.

    In this very special solocast, Paul shares a wealth of knowledge he’s accumulated for more than a quarter-century about the core and explains why doctors and therapists commonly misdiagnose the origins of back pain and assorted injuries this time on Spirit Gym.

    This episode is also available as a video on Paul's YouTube channel. To see the graphics he talks about, download the accompanying handout here.

    After you listen to the podcast, take a few minutes to complete the NLC CHEK Health Index — an official CHEK Institute assessment tool — at this link.

    Timestamps

    3:17 Mapping out your core, the foundation for your arms and legs.

    6:42 Why many physicians and therapists misdiagnose core dysfunctions like back pain.

    9:00 The CHEK Totem Pole.

    15:09 The most unstable part of your body and spine.

    25:43 Why it’s common to see hip, knee, ankle and foot injuries originate in the spine and low back.

    28:24 How the inner and outer unit muscles work.

    37:10 “You cannot fire a cannon from a canoe!”

    44:14 The RC Factor.

    51:43 Functional exercise and infant development.

    1:02:53 The Primal Pattern™ movement system.

    1:15:31 One of the most dangerous things you can do in a gym.

    1:21:44 The human microbiome.

    1:28:33 Without healthy glands and organs, optimal conditioning and strength development cannot happen.

    1:48:59 Fear changes everything from your breathing to your muscle tone, posture and hormones.

    1:52:53 Achieving balance between the right and left hemispheres of your brain.

    Resources

    The filum terminale

    The Spinal Engine by Serge Gracovetsky (FREE PDF link)

    How to Eat, Move and Be Healthy (20th Anniversary Edition)

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    2 hrs and 3 mins
  • 389 — The Deeper Your Questions Get, the Bigger Your Life Becomes With Fred Provenza
    Mar 17 2026

    While navigating the very narrow habitrail of daily living, it’s very easy to forget there’s an amazing, alluring and mysterious universe all around us that we simply cannot completely quantify (but take very much for granted). Over time, this daily dulling of our imagination can kill our heart, mind and soul, but only if we let it…

    If you’ve misplaced your sense of wonder and want to reclaim it, join Paul and his very special guest Fred Provenza on an exploration of the cosmos through the world of dreams this week on Spirit Gym.

    Download Fred’s recent paper, Cosmic Dreaming: Memories of a Moment on Earth, for FREE at this link. Check out Fred’s earlier work on Acres USA at this link.

    Watch Fred’s recent discussion, Cosmic Dreaming: The Ecology of Food Systems and Human and Environmental Health, with the Academy of Integrative Health and Medicine on YouTube.

    Learn more about the Behavioral Education for Human Animal Vegetation and Ecosystem Management (BEHAVE) program co-founded by Fred at Utah State University at this link.

    Timestamps

    2:21 The conversation begins with prayers.

    4:59 What happens when God become an idea instead of a mystery?

    14:25 The one lesson all of us need to learn during our time on the planet.

    25:38 The book that saved Fred from a life of depression.

    31:16 What is consciousness?

    37:58 How Fred developed a course on Myth and The Management of Natural Resources.

    44:19 The danger of dogmas.

    56:57 “You depart from nature when the death you produce no longer feeds or supports life.”

    1:08:09 Has the human race become doers at the expense of losing out on feeling alive?

    1:11:35 How much do you want to be owned?

    1:33:13 The inherent creativity of human beings.

    1:38:08 Challenges, opportunities, living in an evolutionary spirit and transcending boundaries.

    1:51:36 The importance of studying principles that transcend time and space.

    Resources

    The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell and Bill Moyers

    Lucid Dying: The New Science of Revolutionizing How We Understand Life and Death by Sam Parnia

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    2 hrs and 10 mins
  • 388 — The Return of the Divine Feminine Isn't Optional Anymore With Dr. Joanna Kujawa
    Mar 9 2026

    Seeker, scholar and spiritual detective Dr. Joanna Kujawa describes the divine journey that led to her life’s work — exploring the gospel of Mary Magdalene — along with a deeper, better understanding of the Divine Feminine and Goddesses and how that knowledge can change the world this week on Spirit Gym.

    Learn more about Joanna’s work on her website. Find her on social media via Facebook, Instagram and YouTube. Read her books Alien Goddess: UFOs, AI and the Goddesses of Ascension and The Other Goddess: Mary Magdalene and the Goddesses of Eros and Secret Knowledge.

    Timestamps

    4:42 Why Joanna calls herself a spiritual detective.

    10:46 Joanna was told to write her book, Alien Goddess.

    21:08 In imaginal space, we can communicate with aliens rather than just listen to them.

    29:34 What is a Goddess?

    37:09 The differences between Goddesses and Gods.

    42:59 Why civilizations suppress the feminine.

    56:44 The ongoing struggle between good and evil in the universe.

    1:03:56 The reason Joanna became a spiritual detective and seeker: The Gospel of Mary Magdalene.

    1:18:27 “A teacher may fall, but their teachings that were passed to you are still there.”

    1:25:47 “There’s immense power in the feminine eros, and I think that’s why they are afraid of us.”

    1:29:18 AI, posthumanism and transhumanism.

    1:49:21 Do you have an overwhelming feeling right now that something is missing in your life?

    1:56:15 Why matriarchy and patriarchy have their limitations: We need both in our lives.

    2:04:42 “The only place that you can find the divine is within you and in nature.”

    2:15:27 Men do not know how to address and embody their own Divine Masculinity.

    2:36:11 The equal importance of Mary Magdalene and Jesus who embodied the Divine Feminine and Masculine as examples for all of us.

    2:44:14 Eros: The creative power of the universe.

    2:50:16 Baba Yaga insisted on being included at the end of Joanna's latest book.

    Resources

    Joanna’s conversation with Jeffrey Mishlove on New Thinking Allowed on YouTube

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    3 hrs and 7 mins
  • 387 — What Makes Cannabis Medicine Versus Just Getting High With Ryan Sprague
    Mar 3 2026

    Cannabis is a plant medicine that can do so much for one’s health when it’s grown properly and used very wisely.

    Expert and educator Ryan Sprague explores the chemistry behind what makes cannabis work and explains why judging its quality solely on how much THC it contains is a very bad idea this week on Spirit Gym.

    Learn more about Ryan and his work on his Highly Optimized website and on social media via Instagram here and here and YouTube. Listen to Ryan’s Highly Optimized podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to them.

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    Timestamps

    4:44 How a highly optimized human uses cannabis wisely and as one of many tools.

    10:00 Do Drugs Have Religious Import? by Huston Smith from The Journal of Philosophy.

    21:28 Practice the Daoist not too much, not too little philosophy.

    32:34 Psychedelics are meant to be challenging by design.

    51:09 Why Ryan believes cannabis and hemp are the people’s plants.

    1:05:26 “Cannabis is a medicine that works on one regulatory system that happens to deal with 80-plus different conditions and purposes.”

    1:13:22 Could cannabis treat epilepsy?

    1:27:42 How much THC do you realiy need in your cannabis?

    1:34:18 Foods that help with endocannabinoid production besides cannabis.

    Resources

    Soma: Divine Mushroom of Immortality by R. Gordon Wasson (FREE PDF link)

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    2 hrs and 24 mins