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Ill Conceived

Ill Conceived

By: Josh Boerman & June Sternbach
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A podcast about natalism. Hosted by Josh Boerman (The Worst of All Possible Worlds, Traditional Scrench) and June Sternbach (Kill The Computer, The Onion).

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  • ANNOUNCEMENT: Ill Conceived Gives You The Talk

    ANNOUNCEMENT: Ill Conceived Gives You The Talk
    May 22 2026

    Thursday, June 4 at 7pm / Lincoln Lodge, Chicago

    $20 per ticket / 50 tickets only

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    2 mins
  • JD Vance: The B-Side (PREVIEW)

    JD Vance: The B-Side (PREVIEW)
    May 16 2026

    THIS IS A PREVIEW OF A BONUS B-SIDE EPISODE. For access to the full length version of this and every other biweekly bonus B-side, go to Patreon.com/illconceived

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    The natalist arguments of people like JD Vance are increasingly being used to defend new laws rolling back bodily autonomy, and in Wyoming, a newly signed "fetal heartbeat" bill has made this connection explicit. We're talking about it, plus we read your mail about:

    • The tendencies of fundamentalist Catholicism vs. more mainstream Catholicism and the people they tend to attract

    • The varying cultural tendences of different ethnic Catholic traditions

    • JD's connection to Erika Kirk and her whole deal
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    28 mins
  • JD Vance

    JD Vance
    May 9 2026
    The Vice President of the United States and his wife Usha are expecting their fourth baby, setting an apparent example for their fellow natalists. But just how intertwined is JD Vance with the natalist movement overall and what does it have to do with Usha’s new podcast about children’s books? This week, June and Josh dig into JD Vance’s history with conservatism and Catholicism to try to figure it out. ***WANT MORE ILL CONCEIVED? Every other week, we release B-side supplements to the main episodes where we read your e-mail responses and discuss things further. Come check us out at Patreon.com/illconceived!*** ***WE WANT YOUR THOUGHTS FOR THE WORLD FAMOUS MAILBAG! Send an email with feedback about this week's episode to illconceivedpod@gmail.com*** EPISODE ART: JD Vance in a press photo by Niall Carson for Getty Images. Born in Middletown, Ohio, Vance graduated from Ohio State University and Yale Law School, eventually working under Peter Thiel at Mithril Capital. After being elected to the United States Senate in 2022, Vance was selected by Donald Trump to serve as his running mate for the 2024 presidential election. AUDIO CLIPS: 18:51 – Donald Trump reading from 2 Corinthians as part of the America Reads the Bible special event24:51 – JD Vance referring to Democratic opposition as "childless cat ladies"59:39 – Usha Vance reading The Tale of Peter Rabbit by Beatrix Potter for her podcast Storytime with the Second Lady SOURCES: J. D. Vance and the Right’s Call to Have More BabiesThe troubling history behind JD Vance's natalismJD Vance And Peter Thiel: What To Know About The Relationship Between Trump’s VP Pick And The BillionaireWhat have I done? I forced my kid to listen to Usha Vance’s podcast - now she’s a fanJD Vance Repeats ‘Anti-Family’ Criticism of Democrats on Sunday Morning News Show TourBaby Bonuses and Motherhood Medals: Why We Shouldn’t Trust the Pronatalist MovementTrump May Soon Offer a Motherhood Medal, an Idea Popularized in Nazi GermanyRepublicans Are Right: One Party Is ‘Anti-Family and Anti-Kid’Usha Vance and JD Vance, Pronatalism’s Poster Couple, Are Having a 4th KidJD Vance’s Approval Rating Plunges to New Historic LowMayor Mamdani and Governor Hochul Announce First Four Communities to Receive Free 2-K SeatsDemocracy | Of Childless ‘Psychopath’ Women and ‘Replacement’: JD Vance’s Birthrate and Immigration Obsessions Have Shared HistoryAn Analysis of Happy No Snakes Day and the Deeper Implications on the Horizon for Children’s Literature and Christian Nationalist Policies in the Public School SystemBeyond the Nuclear FamilyThe Role of the Nuclear Family in CapitalismWith Defense of ICE, JD Vance Clarifies His Next Target: YouJ.D. Vance Used to Be an Atheist. What He Believes Now Is Telling.Gold Mother's CrossWikipedia: Order of Maternal GloryWho in the USSR was awarded the ‘Mother-Heroine’ title?National Conservatism: A Statement of Principles5% of People Detained By ICE Have Violent Convictions, 73% No Convictions FOLLOW THE SHOW: Website: illconceivedpodcast.comBluesky: ‪@illconceivedpodcast.comTumblr: @illconceivedpod FOLLOW JOSH: Website: joshboerman.comBluesky: @bosh.worstpossible.worldOther podcast: The Worst of All Possible WorldsStream: Traditional Scrench FOLLOW JUNE: Bluesky: @junlper.beerOther podcast: Kill The ComputerWriting: June's Substack ILL CONCEIVED THEME SONG BY: Caleb (Linktree / Bluesky)
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    1 hr and 39 mins
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