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Eye On A.I.

Eye On A.I.

By: Craig S. Smith
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Eye on A.I. is a biweekly podcast, hosted by longtime New York Times correspondent Craig S. Smith. In each episode, Craig will talk to people making a difference in artificial intelligence. The podcast aims to put incremental advances into a broader context and consider the global implications of the developing technology. AI is about to change your world, so pay attention.Eye On A.I.
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  • #338 Amith Singhee: Can India Catch Up in AI? IBM's Amith Singhee on What It Will Take
    Apr 24 2026

    What if the country that trains the world's engineers finally built the infrastructure to match its talent?

    In this episode of Eye on AI, Craig Smith sits down with Amith Singhee, Director of IBM Research India and CTO of IBM India and South Asia, to explore where India actually stands in the global AI race and what it will take to close the gap.

    Amith gives an honest, ground-level assessment of why India has been slow to compete. The talent has always been there. But until recently, the investment, the compute infrastructure, and the institutional intent hadn't come together in a sustained, coordinated way. That's changing, and Amith explains exactly what's different now.

    He walks through IBM Research India's 27-year presence in the country, the research it's doing on foundation models, hybrid cloud AI deployment, agentic systems, and quantum computing. He also explains why building AI from India doesn't just help India. Working with less data, less compute, and more linguistic diversity forces better engineering and makes IBM's models more generalizable for the entire world.

    We also get deep into the technical frontier. Why catastrophic forgetting is one of the key unsolved problems standing between current AI and anything more capable. How IBM is already shipping continual learning in practice through its COBOL modernization tools, helping enterprises decode decades of legacy code before the engineers who wrote it are gone. And why agentic AI, for all the hype, still has a mountain of unglamorous enterprise engineering left to climb before it becomes truly reliable.

    Plus, what Amith would tell an 18-year-old engineer in India today about what skills will actually matter in an AI-driven world.

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    (00:00) Introduction and Amith Singhee's Background

    (06:26) Why IBM Set Up Research in India

    (11:45) Can India Compete in AI

    (15:18) How IBM Collaborates With Indian Universities

    (19:25) Why India Has Been Slow in AI

    (24:50) IBM's Hybrid Cloud AI Research Focus

    (27:34) How Data Scarcity in India Makes Better AI

    (31:18) Fine-Tuning Models Without Losing General Knowledge

    (35:03) Continual Learning and Catastrophic Forgetting

    (38:25) COBOL and Legacy Code Modernization

    (42:11) Agentic AI Hype vs Enterprise Reality

    (48:09) What Young Engineers Should Study Today

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    47 mins
  • #337 Debdas Sen: Why AI Without ROI Will Die (Again)
    Apr 23 2026

    What does it actually take to prove that AI delivers real value in the industries that keep the world running?

    In this episode of Eye on AI, Craig Smith sits down with Debdas Sen, CEO of TCG Digital and Joint Managing Director of Lummus Digital, to explore what serious enterprise AI looks like when it is applied to some of the most complex, high-stakes problems on the planet. Problems like compressing years of catalyst research into weeks, predicting refinery failures before they happen, and accelerating drug development timelines that could determine how long a life-saving medicine takes to reach patients.

    Debdas has spent nearly 30 years in data and AI, living through every hype cycle from the data warehousing era of 1997 to today's agentic revolution. He makes a compelling case that the AI community has one defining job right now: prove the ROI, or risk another AI winter.

    We also get into what makes TCG Digital's platform mcube™ different. It is not a horizontal tool. It is a domain-first, agentic AI ecosystem built for the kinds of massive, multi-variable problems that horizontal platforms cannot touch. Debdas breaks down how mcube™ bridges legacy enterprise infrastructure with cutting-edge agentic systems, why hybrid modeling beats pure AI in energy and life sciences, and how the platform keeps private enterprise data protected while still drawing on the best of what public LLMs have to offer.

    Finally, Debdas shares where he sees the industry heading next, a future where agents from different providers can reason together in a neutral space, where inference and reasoning keep improving, and where the companies that go deepest into domain will pull furthest ahead.

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    (00:00) Introduction and Meet Debdas Sen

    (01:30) 30 Years in Data and AI: From Data Warehousing to Agentic Systems

    (03:02) What TCG Digital Actually Does (04:32) Inside mcube™: How the Platform Works

    (10:06) Domain vs Horizontal: Why Specificity Wins in Enterprise AI

    (18:29) Catalyst R&D: Collapsing 12 Months of Research Into One

    (30:38) Predicting Plant Failures Before They Happen

    (36:51) Solving the Trust and Hallucination Problem in Enterprise AI

    (44:51) The Six-Layer Architecture of mcube™

    (47:05) What Is Genuinely New About Agentic AI

    (49:22) What Young People Should Study to Work in Serious AI

    (53:14) Velocity to Value: Why ROI Must Be Tracked From Day One

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    51 mins
  • #336 Professor Mausam: Why India Is Losing the AI Race and What It Will Take to Catch Up
    Apr 20 2026

    What if the country that produces the world's top AI talent finally figured out how to keep it?

    In this episode of Eye on AI, Craig Smith sits down with Professor Mausam, one of India's leading AI researchers, AAAI Fellow, and founding head of the Yardi School of Artificial Intelligence at IIT Delhi, to get an honest and unflinching diagnosis of why India has fallen so far behind the US and China in artificial intelligence and what it will actually take to close that gap.

    Mausam breaks down the structural story behind India's deficit. A pipeline of world-class students that gets exported abroad the moment it graduates. A professor shortage so severe that IIT Delhi's entire School of AI has hired only five new faculty members in five years. A government AI mission with the right instincts but not enough speed or boldness. And a brain drain made worse by the very thing India is proud of, its English fluency, which makes its talent the easiest in the world to absorb and the hardest to bring back.

    Mausam walks through the full picture. How China built its research dominance not through students but through aggressively repatriating senior researchers with real salaries, real lab resources, and real authority to build research cultures from scratch. Why the AlexNet moment in 2012 was actually an equalizer that gave China's fledgling ecosystem a surprise advantage over more established Western research groups. How India's JEE coaching culture and IIT bottleneck are symptoms of a scarcity of quality institutions rather than a broken exam. What the government's AI mission is getting right on compute, data, and sectoral focus, and where the critical gaps remain. And why Mausam believes that bringing one hundred top professors back to India would do more for the country's AI future than any single government program or funding initiative.

    We also get into the harder questions. Whether AI degrees belong at the undergraduate level or should sit on top of a computer science foundation. Why Mausam no longer holds an optimistic view on AI's impact on software jobs and why he thinks Geoff Hinton's point about plumbers has merit. And what it would actually take for a democracy of 1.4 billion people to stop training the world's AI leaders and start keeping them.

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    (00:00) Introduction: India's AI Gap and Professor Mausam's Background
    (02:30) Building the Yardi School of AI at IIT Delhi
    (07:44) How Far China Has Pulled Ahead in AI Research
    (12:55) Why India Could Not Follow China's Playbook
    (29:18) The JEE System, Coaching Culture, and the IIT Bottleneck
    (30:37) AI Degrees, Job Market Realities, and the Future of Work
    (44:18) The Real Problem Is Professors, Not Students
    (48:07) Big Tech Labs in India: Helpful but Not at Scale
    (51:46) The Government AI Mission: Progress and Gaps
    (55:20) The Compute and Data Infrastructure Problem
    (59:54) Can India Close the Gap Before It Is Too Late

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    1 hr
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