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Disordered: Anxiety Help

Disordered: Anxiety Help

By: Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata
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Disordered is the podcast that delivers real, evidence-based, actionable talk about anxiety disorders and anxiety recovery in a kind, compassionate, community-oriented environment. Josh Fletcher is a qualified psychotherapist in the UK. Drew Linsalata is a therapist practicing under supervision in the US. They're both bestselling authors in the anxiety and mental health space. Josh and Drew are funny, friendly, and they have a knack for combining lived experience, formal training, and professional experience in an encouraging, inspiring, and compassionate mental health message.Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata Hygiene & Healthy Living Psychology Psychology & Mental Health
Episodes
  • Anxiety in the Supermarket or Grocery Store (Episode 152)
    Apr 17 2026

    Have you ever felt like a supermarket was a high-stakes obstacle course you just couldn’t wait to escape? In this episode of Disordered, Josh and Drew dive deep into a struggle that almost everyone with an anxiety disorder knows well: anxiety in the supermarket or grocery store.


    Whether it is the harsh fluorescent lighting, the narrow aisles, or the trapped feeling of standing in a long checkout queue, the grocery store is often a primary trigger for panic and agoraphobia. We discuss why this mundane chore feels so confronting and share our own personal histories of running out of stores and abandoning shopping carts.


    • Sensory Overload: Why the music, lights, and crowds create a maelstrom for the anxious brain.

    • The Exit Mentality: The habit of scanning for fire exits and the urge to rush through shopping as a hit and run experience.

    • Cognitive Sequencing: The difficulty of making simple decisions when your brain is stuck in panic mode.

    • Real Success Stories: We share a did it anyway from a listener who navigated a new store despite her agoraphobia.

    • Practical Strategies: Why trying to think logically does not work in the moment and how to practice willful tolerance instead.

    We also touch on the 7% Slower rule and how intentionally slowing down your physical pace can teach your brain that you are not actually in danger. If you have ever felt like reality was collapsing while you were just trying to buy ingredients for lasagna, this episode is for you.

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    Want to talk about what you heard today? We're hanging out in the Disordered community space:

    https://disordered.fm/community

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    The Disordered Guide to Health Anxiety is now available. If you're struggling with health anxiety, this book is for you.

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    Want to ask us questions, share your wins, or get more information about Josh, Drew, and the Disordered podcast? Send us an email or leave a voicemail on our website.

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    38 mins
  • Anxiety Disorders and Sneaky Compulsions (Episode 151)
    Apr 10 2026

    Want to talk about what you heard here? We're hanging out in the Disordered community space:

    https://disordered.fm/community

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    This episode of Disordered dives into the concept of sneaky compulsions. Many people struggling with anxiety or OCD often find themselves performing behaviors that they do not immediately recognize as compulsions. These can look like productive research, seeking reassurance through a joke, or even "checking" to see if you still feel calm.


    Drew and Josh discuss how these behaviors are often avoidance or escape mechanisms in disguise. Whether it is asking a therapist if you are the worst case they have ever seen or using AI to obsess over a body sensation, these actions are designed to provide short term relief while keeping you stuck in the anxiety cycle.


    Key topics covered in this episode:

    * Why we mask compulsions as personality traits or curiosity.

    * The "reassurance seeker's workaround" of projecting issues onto others.

    * How gathering more information can actually be a form of avoidance.

    * Real life examples from the community about catching sneaky compulsions in the moment.

    * The importance of psychological flexibility and learning to be with difficult feelings instead of trying to fix them.


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    The Disordered Guide to Health Anxiety is now available. If you're struggling with health anxiety, this book is for you.

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    Struggling with worry and rumination that you feel you can't stop or control? Check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Worry and Rumination Explained⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a two hour pre-recorded workshop produced by Josh and Drew. The workshop takes a deep dive into the mechanics of worrying and ruminating, offering some helpful ways to approach the seemingly unsolvable problem of trying to solve seemingly unsolvable problems.

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    Want to ask us questions, share your wins, or get more information about Josh, Drew, and the Disordered podcast? Send us an email or leave a voicemail on our website.

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    48 mins
  • Same Time Next Week - Anxiety Recovery in the "Gaps" (Episode 150)
    Apr 3 2026

    Want to talk about what you heard today? Check out the Disordered Community space:

    https://disordered.fm/community

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    In this milestone episode of Disordered, we discuss the concepts in Josh's upcoming book. The conversation focuses on the gaps in anxiety recovery and the modern hurdles that prevent people from effectively practicing desensitization.


    They break down how the obsession with "optimization" and the "wellness brosphere" often becomes a distraction from the actual work of recovery. Using case studies from the book, they examine the different ways people try to avoid vulnerability by using hacks or curated identities.


    CASE STUDIES:


    Magnus: A young man with agoraphobia who tries to "alpha" his way out of his annex. He relies on supplements and wellness protocols rather than facing the fear directly.


    Lia Su: A wellness influencer who hides severe OCD behind a perfect online persona. Her story explores how making mental health an identity can lead to more avoidance.


    Ruben Kane: A retired boxer dealing with gambling issues and the shame of no longer feeling like the tough guy. His story looks at how anxiety can infiltrate a singular identity.


    Miriam: A student therapist learning to navigate imposter syndrome. Josh and Drew discuss why self doubt is actually a valuable tool for growth and curiosity.


    CORE CONCEPTS


    Delayed Gratification: This explores the struggle to be patient in a world where everything else is instant.


    Vulnerability: Recovery involves moving away from fixing or regulating and moving toward being okay with being afraid.


    The Gaps: This involves identifying the subtle things we do that keep us stuck in the anxiety cycle.


    Real Fear vs Real Danger: This episode emphasizes that while the fear you feel is real, you are not in actual danger.


    Psychological Flexibility: You benefit more from learning to be with difficult internal experiences like anxiety and fear rather than trying to control or prevent them.


    Gradual Progress: Recovery is about taking small, practical steps rather than looking for a magic solution.


    BOOK INFORMATION

    Josh’s new book, Same Time Next Week, is available for pre order. If you pre order before May 14th, you can receive an exclusive ebook on intrusive thoughts and a morning anxiety audio guide.


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    The Disordered Guide to Health Anxiety is now available. If you're struggling with health anxiety, this book is for you.

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    Struggling with worry and rumination that you feel you can't stop or control? Check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Worry and Rumination Explained⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a two hour pre-recorded workshop produced by Josh and Drew. The workshop takes a deep dive into the mechanics of worrying and ruminating, offering some helpful ways to approach the seemingly unsolvable problem of trying to solve seemingly unsolvable problems.

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    Want to ask us questions, share your wins, or get more information about Josh, Drew, and the Disordered podcast? Send us an email or leave a voicemail on our website.

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    44 mins
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One of the best podcasts about disordered anxiety I've ever listened to.

thank you

Wow. Just wow.

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Matter or fact, sensible, calming podcast which feels on your side, offering practical, realistic and evidence-based approaches to help with problems. Powerful, funny, joyous at times, never not interesting. Love
It. It’s added to the toolbox of help for me. Thanks!

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love this podcast really informative and helps turn something that is very scary into something that really isn't! education on anxiety makes it so much easier to understand and handle. These guys are fantastic! Thankyou josh and drew!

amazing podcast

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These two truly understand severe anxiety and they make me belly laugh, which is just what you need when you're going through an anxious period. I love that they're educational without being condescending, and they celebrate big wins (which may seem tiny to others).

Best anxiety podcast

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