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Can Pope Leo Disarm AI?

Can Pope Leo Disarm AI?

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Pope Leo XIV has entered the AI debate with a blunt challenge: artificial intelligence needs to be “disarmed.” Mike Oreskes and Edie Lush unpack Magnifica Humanitas with Fordham president Tania Tetlow, exploring AI, war, Silicon Valley power, colonialism, conscience, and why the humanities may matter as much as engineering in deciding who this technology serves.


00:00 Cold open: “AI needs to be disarmed”

01:07 Welcome to We’re All Gonna Die

03:06 Tania Tetlow joins the conversation

06:00 What Magnifica Humanitas means

09:52 Silicon Valley, Babel, and technological hubris

15:35 Who Pope Leo is and why his voice matters

17:53 Chris Olah on why AI labs need outside critics

25:50 Listening to people left out of AI decisions

27:35 AI, colonialism, data, and the Global South

33:24 Why the Industrial Revolution frame matters

39:35 Closing: every person is unique and irreplaceable

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