Can Pope Leo Disarm AI?
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Pope Leo XIV has entered the AI debate with a blunt challenge: artificial intelligence needs to be “disarmed.” Mike Oreskes and Edie Lush unpack Magnifica Humanitas with Fordham president Tania Tetlow, exploring AI, war, Silicon Valley power, colonialism, conscience, and why the humanities may matter as much as engineering in deciding who this technology serves.
00:00 Cold open: “AI needs to be disarmed”
01:07 Welcome to We’re All Gonna Die
03:06 Tania Tetlow joins the conversation
06:00 What Magnifica Humanitas means
09:52 Silicon Valley, Babel, and technological hubris
15:35 Who Pope Leo is and why his voice matters
17:53 Chris Olah on why AI labs need outside critics
25:50 Listening to people left out of AI decisions
27:35 AI, colonialism, data, and the Global South
33:24 Why the Industrial Revolution frame matters
39:35 Closing: every person is unique and irreplaceable
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